Nicky Schander

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  • In reply to: Clarifying the Spray Framework and Core Recipe

    May 1, 2024 at 10:55 am #1924
    Nicky Schander
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    Thank you so much @John Willis. This totally helps me!

    In reply to: Clarifying the Spray Framework and Core Recipe

    February 3, 2024 at 7:09 pm #1847
    Nicky Schander
    Participant

    My questions are:
    1. What are these 2nd, 3rd, and 4th cover sprays?Is this the same as Spring 2-4 or Spring 1-3, the first “cover spray” being “Start Me Up?”
    2. What does meristem launch mean? I took this from a search on this forum for Cedar Apple Rust in 2015 https://holisticorchardnetwork.org/community-orchardist-newsletters/community-orchardist-february-2015/?highlight=cedar+apple+rust
    3. I outlined the Core Holistic Recipe in recipe format. Has this been done elsewhere before? And did I get it right?

    Thanks for your help! The new HON looks great!

    In reply to: Clarifying the Spray Framework and Core Recipe

    February 3, 2024 at 7:00 pm #1846
    Nicky Schander
    Participant

    Cedar Apple Rust (CAR)

    • Issue: Serious CAR problem in a small home orchard with prevalent cedar trees.
    • Solution: GreenCure, a Potassium Bicarbonate-based organic fungicide, tested and effective against CAR.
    • Application: Apply GreenCure during wet conditions, 6-8 hours after the start of rain for optimal results.

    Holistic Orchard Approach:

    • Focus: Priming the immune function of the tree and introducing deep nutrition for competitive colonization.
    • Additional Methods: Alter leaf pH with products like GreenCure to hinder basidiospore germination.
    • Other Products: Armicarb, Kaligreen, and Milstop can enhance efficacy when used with an organic spreader/sticker. (I’m not sure what an organic spread/sticker is)

    Spring Holistic Sprays:

    • Core Holistic Recipe: Fish hydrolysate, pure neem oil, seaweed extract, effective microbes/aerated compost tea. (See recipe below)
    • Timing: Applications during the quarter-inch green, pink, and petal fall, and seven days later.
    • Bloom Competitive Colonization: Essential to prevent fire blight, using Karanja oil, competitive microbes, seaweed extract, and blackstrap.

    Comprehensive Applications (Fruit Sizing Window):

    • Issues Addressed: Curculio, sawfly, internal-feeding moth larvae, scab, cedar apple rust, and black rot.
    • What: Pure Neem Oil (NimBioSys label for pure neem oil with EPA registration for certified-organic growers)
    • Timing: 2nd, 3rd, and 4th cover sprays every 7-10 days during the fruit sizing window. (What are these 2nd, 3rd, and 4th cover sprays?Is this the same as Spring 2-4 or Spring 1-3, the first “cover spray” being “Start Me Up?”)
    • Key Components: Calcium and silica brews included in the core holistic recipe to build cuticle strength on leaf and fruit surfaces.
    • Kaolin Clay Strategy: Applied separately from fatty oils, the day after a holistic app, to keep fine clay particles “unstuck” on plant surfaces

    Spring1 – Tight Cluster to Open Cluster:

    • Timing: 5 to 9 days before Spring2.
    • Description: Overall tree canopy is sparse; soil and arboreal food webs are engaged; wets down branch structure and trunk for decomposition.

    Spring2 – Pink, Delayed as Long as Possible:

    • Timing: Up to 7 days before a bloom time rain.
    • Description: Blossoms show pink;

    Spring3 – Petal Fall, ASAP:

    • Timing: 5 to 9 days before Spring4.
    • Description: Continues thorough spraying to runoff; renewal spray after extended bloom; trace minerals for seed development. (Trace minerals can be found in seaweed sprays)

    Spring4 – First Cover (Beyond Bud Stage Lingo):

    • Timing: Better to err on the side of sooner rather than later.
    • Description: Fruitlets starting to reveal; major wetting events; risk of primary scab ending; add trace minerals for meristem launch. (I have no idea what meristem launch means)

    Summer Holistic Sprays:

    • Frequency: Biweekly applications.
    • Composition: Core recipe minus nitrogen-rich fish, including foliar calcium. Consider adding milk for the brown rot of peaches.
    • Monitoring: Traps for maggot flies to indicate the need for additional actions.

    Fall Holistic Spray:

    • Focus: Leaf decomposition, hindering scab overwintering sites, addressing insect eggs/larvae.
    • Components: Higher rates of liquid fish, neem oil, and increased microbes for better decomposition.
    • Benefits: Azadiractins in neem hinder insect development, while good fats stimulate mycorrhizae during the fall feeder root flush.

    When they mention Core Holistic Recipe above they mean this:

    • Core Holistic Recipe

      • Ingredients:
      • 2.5 ounces pure neem oil
      • A generous teaspoonful of soap emulsifier
      • 10 ounces liquid fish
      • 6 ounces mother culture of effective microbes
      • Up to a half cup of blackstrap molasses
      • 5 tablespoons liquid kelp or 0.5 ounce (dry weight) of seaweed extract
    • Instructions:
      1. In a suitable container, mix 2.5 ounces of pure neem oil with a generous teaspoonful of soap emulsifier to achieve a 0.5 percent neem concentration.
      2. Add 10 ounces of liquid fish and 6 ounces of mother culture of effective microbes to the water filling the spray tank.
      3. Dissolve as much as a half cup of blackstrap molasses into the mixture to launch the beneficial microbes.
      4. Additionally, include 5 tablespoons of liquid kelp or 0.5 ounce (dry weight) of seaweed extract to enhance the overall solution.
      5. Ensure thorough mixing to create a well-blended solution.
      6. Use the prepared mixture in a 4-gallon backpack sprayer, covering the trees until runoff is achieved.

    In reply to: Clarifying the Spray Framework and Core Recipe

    February 3, 2024 at 6:45 pm #1845
    Nicky Schander
    Participant

    Sorry, I was trying to lay it out by cutting and pasting code but it didn’t work well. Let me try again